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October 2nd, 2006 by mike d. in Geekdom, Weekend Update!

currently eating: chicken

I had a great weekend. Friday night after class I went home and spent some time with my folks (get psyched for a fantastic “Stories by Dad D” tomorrow). I got a hair cut and then spent some time with my sister, a friend, and the Schenk crowd. It was a very social day. I loved it.

Sunday I went climbing with Mark and Irene then spent three and a half hours battling advanced dynamics with a team of students.

Let’s get our geek on!

The problem was such:

A person fires a bullet into the air at angle a and an initial velocity of i cos a + k sin a (the projectile is being shot south). Solve for the position of the projectile when it lands taking into consideration the influence of the angular acceleration of the Earth on the projectile. Disregard air resistance.

Diagram anyone?

oh yeah!

Although a huge pain in the butt, I think we figured it out. What made it mildly interesting is that the distance of the particle from the center of the Earth is changing for the duration of its air time. So the angular acceleration has to be a function of the particle’s height.

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Comment by Kurt from Work |
2006-10-02 10:16:39

OOHHH!!! I know this one! I saw this on CSI one time. The bullet will end up in the chest of some dudes wife with an 85 degree entrance vector. I’m glad I was able to help with this one.

 
Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-02 10:37:50

I heard a loud “whoosh” as that problem flew over my head. Since we’re disregarding air resistance, I think that the projectile will not land at all. It will continue, unchecked, into outer space.

Comment by mike d. |
2006-10-02 10:51:31

Ahh but while air resistance can be ignored, Gravity is still in the mix. Although in our problem we assumed Gravity was constant. But with distance, I suppose that too would be changing. it’d be interesting to see what would happen if we re-did the problem using gravity as a function.

Comment by Patrick |
2006-10-02 10:59:50

if i and k are large enough, it would get into outer space!

sadly, i think i’ve forgotten completely how to solve these problems. maybe, if I’m put in a group with Mike D, it’ll all come back and we can rock the bullet problems… but on my own… I think I’d be stuck.

 
Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-02 11:08:25

Ok, now explain the effect of the loss of air resistance on gravity. I say air resistance is a big help in slowing the velocity to the point where gravity can pull the projectile to the ground. Where’s the balance in forces? How does kinetic energy play off of gravity? This is getting complicated.

 
 
 
Comment by Roland |
2006-10-02 10:58:30

This question is flawed - if there’s no air HOW DOES THE GUNPOWDER IGNITE, HUH?

Ha! Take that, physics!
(I always preferred Chemistry, anyway)

Comment by smcquaid |
2006-10-02 11:50:31

There’s air, it just doesn’t resist anything.

This air just gives in.

Comment by Aaron |
2006-10-02 13:10:58

Air is such a pushover.

 
 
Comment by mike g |
2006-10-03 09:17:15

You don’t need air to ignite gunpowder, it doesnt require air as an oxidizer, its purely a chemical reaction that can happen in a vacuum.

Comment by Sander in TN |
2006-10-03 16:38:53

Just part of the magic!

 
 
 
Comment by Anita Clue |
2006-10-06 11:15:31

I think I can safely speak for most Americans in stating that the answer to this problem is “Who cares?” Unless someone we know was holding the gun, or hit by the bullet (assuming it hits anything) we won’t lose sleep over this one.

Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-06 11:26:40

Apathy lives!

 
 
Comment by Anita Clue |
2006-10-06 11:30:38

Not only does it live, it thrives! It’s growing. It’s taking over the world. But no one really gets excited about that.

Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-06 11:33:27

Of course they don’t, because they don’t care.

 
 
Comment by Anita Clue |
2006-10-06 11:37:19

Thank you Jes Saint for making my point again. I thought it was implied. But there are those who believe you can never state the glaringly obvious too many times.

Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-06 11:47:51

Did you sit on a cactus this morning?

 
 
Comment by Anita Clue |
2006-10-06 11:54:21

No. Did you? That comment about stating the glaringly obvious was not meant as an insult to you. Actually my husband does that a lot. See I can’t strike out at him in person, but I can razz him anonymously on the internet.

Comment by mike d. |
2006-10-06 11:58:55

Jes? Anita?

I love you guys.

Comment by Jes Saint |
2006-10-06 13:08:20

Awww, thanks, Mike.

 
 
 
Comment by Anita Clue |
2006-10-06 12:00:52

Well I can’t speak for Jes, but…um…I love you too?

 
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